Legislature(2007 - 2008)CAPITOL 124

01/30/2007 08:00 AM House COMMUNITY & REGIONAL AFFAIRS


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08:03:04 AM Start
08:03:57 AM State Assessor
09:02:32 AM Alaska Municipal League
09:12:39 AM Adjourn
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
    HOUSE COMMUNITY AND REGIONAL AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                   
                        January 30, 2007                                                                                        
                           8:03 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Anna Fairclough, Co-Chair                                                                                        
Representative Gabrielle LeDoux, Co-Chair                                                                                       
Representative Kurt Olson                                                                                                       
Representative Woodie Salmon                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Nancy Dahlstrom                                                                                                  
Representative Mark Neuman                                                                                                      
Representative Sharon Cissna                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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OVERVIEW(S):  STATE ASSESSOR; ALASKA MUNICIPAL LEAGUE                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
STEVE VAN SANT, State Assessor                                                                                                  
Division of Community Advocacy                                                                                                  
Department of Commerce, Community, & Economic Development                                                                       
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided a presentation entitled,                                                                          
"Municipal Revenue Myths & Realities."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
TIM BOURCY, President                                                                                                           
Alaska Municipal League                                                                                                         
Skagway, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided an overview of the Alaska                                                                         
Municipal League.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  GABRIELLE   LEDOUX  called  the  House   Community  and                                                             
Regional Affairs  Standing Committee meeting to  order at 8:03:04                                                             
AM.   Representatives LeDoux, Fairclough, Olson,  and Salmon were                                                             
present at the call to order.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
^State Assessor                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:03:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR LEDOUX announced that the  first order of business would                                                               
be the presentation from the state assessor.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:04:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STEVE VAN  SANT, State Assessor, Division  of Community Advocacy,                                                               
Department  of   Commerce,  Community,  &   Economic  Development                                                               
(DCCED), informed  the committee  that he would  discuss taxation                                                               
for   municipalities   and   the   lack   of   alternatives   for                                                               
municipalities through  the handout entitled,  "Municipal Revenue                                                               
Myths  & Realities."   The  handout,  he pointed  out, begins  by                                                               
highlighting the various types of  taxes, including property tax,                                                               
head  tax,  motor  vehicle   registration  tax,  employment  tax,                                                               
bed/room tax, fuel transfer tax,  business license tax, sales and                                                               
use tax,  value-added tax, severance tax,  property transfer tax,                                                               
and gross receipts tax.  However,  not all taxes may be levied by                                                               
all  municipalities.   He informed  the committee  that in  2006,                                                               
approximately  $1.1  billion  in  local taxes  was  collected  by                                                               
municipalities,  of  which  $223  million  was  sales  and  other                                                               
special taxes and $905 million  was property taxes, including oil                                                               
and  gas.   Of the  $905 million  in property  taxes, about  $220                                                               
million  was  collected from  oil  and  gas  property tax  -  the                                                               
majority of which goes to the North Slope, Kenai, and Valdez.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  VAN SANT  explained that  taxes  are necessary  in order  to                                                               
distribute  the   tax  burden   for  services  rendered   by  the                                                               
government as  equitably as  possible.   In many  cases, property                                                               
taxes are  thought to  be the  methodology.   With regard  to the                                                               
page entitled  "Have Municipal Tax Revenues  Increased?", Mr. Van                                                               
Sant  acknowledged that  municipal tax  revenues have  increased.                                                               
In  fact,  from  1995-2005,  sales tax  revenues  increased  63.5                                                               
percent;  bed  taxes  and  other   tax  revenues  increased  68.4                                                               
percent; and local property tax  revenues increased 75.4 percent.                                                               
However,   at   the  same   time,   the   municipal  full   value                                                               
determination  has only  increased 52.3  percent.   Moreover, oil                                                               
and gas  property tax  revenues decreased  15.3 percent  over the                                                               
same  timeframe.   The next  page entitled,  "A Major  Reason Why                                                               
Taxes Have Increased"  uses a graph to  illustrate that municipal                                                               
property tax increases coincide with  state cuts and increases to                                                               
the municipalities  from the state.   The burden to  find revenue                                                               
is being placed on the local municipalities, he opined.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:09:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR LEDOUX  inquired as to  how Alaska's  municipal property                                                               
taxes rank in comparison to other states.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. VAN  SANT answered  that Alaska's  property taxes  rank about                                                               
15-18  nationally and  thus Alaska's  property  taxes are  fairly                                                               
high.  However, when one views  the overall tax, Alaska ranks 45-                                                               
48.  He  then acknowledged that there have  been accusations that                                                               
the property  tax system is  broken, and in fact  legislation has                                                               
been  introduced to  fix the  property tax  system.   However, he                                                               
questioned whether the property tax  system is really broken.  He                                                               
explained  that property  tax is  a major  source of  revenue for                                                               
state and  local governments throughout  the U.S.  In  Alaska the                                                               
property  tax accounts  for  about 80  percent  of total  revenue                                                               
generated.   He opined that there  should be an effective  way of                                                               
distributing  the  tax  burden.    He  then  explained  that  the                                                               
property tax  is an ad  valorem tax, and  thus it's based  on the                                                               
market value  of the property.   Therefore, assessed  values will                                                               
vary as does the  market.  He noted that the  property tax is one                                                               
of  the few  taxes that  has  an appeal  process.   Mr. Van  Sant                                                               
acknowledged  that  the  property   tax  is  hated  by  everyone.                                                               
However,  it's widely  used across  the  nation because  mortgage                                                               
companies and lending institutions use the information.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:13:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. VAN  SANT, in response  to Co-Chair LeDoux, related  that the                                                               
federal income tax is the number  one tax that folks hate and the                                                               
property tax is  second.  He pointed out that  the despise of the                                                               
property tax often is associated  to situations when the property                                                               
tax has to be  paid in two lump sums, such  as when a homeowner's                                                               
house  is   paid  off.    Furthermore,   mortgage  companies  are                                                               
increasing  the  amount withheld  due  to  increases in  property                                                               
taxes.  The reasons for the  increase in property taxes is multi-                                                               
faceted,  including  an increase  in  the  cost of  services  and                                                               
exemptions.  Mr.  Van Sant then noted that many  believe that the                                                               
assessed value  drives the  mill rates,  although that  isn't the                                                               
case  because mill  rates  are a  mathematical  calculation.   In                                                               
order to  determine the mill rate,  the budget is divided  by the                                                               
total taxable  assessed value.   "In theory, if the  budget stays                                                               
the same and  the assessed values increase, the  mill rate should                                                               
decrease," he  relayed.   The aforementioned  does occur  in many                                                               
cases.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  LEDOUX  opined  that  in municipalities  there  may  be                                                               
pressure for  the assessors to  evaluate the assessed  value more                                                               
frequently when times are tight.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. VAN SANT  pointed out that assessors are  required to provide                                                               
new  market values  each year,  and furthermore  statute requires                                                               
that [assessors]  make visits  to property  on a  cyclical basis.                                                               
Therefore,  he  said that  pressure  on  the assessor  to  change                                                               
values doesn't happen.  The  state assessor's office oversees all                                                               
the assessors  and thus the  state office will intervene  if it's                                                               
found that  municipalities are putting  pressure on  an assessor.                                                               
Furthermore, assessors provide the  state office with their total                                                               
statistics, which  allows the  state assessor  to see  whether an                                                               
assessor is not  doing his/her job in accordance  with state law.                                                               
Mr.  Van Sant  said that  he has  found very  little evidence  of                                                               
assessors trying to  keep values high or low.   Although everyone                                                               
wants   lower  values,   the  problem   is  that   Alaska  is   a                                                               
nondisclosure state  and thus  not all data  is available  when a                                                               
sale   occurs.     He   then   acknowledged   that  there's   the                                                               
misconception that an  assessor who hasn't been to a  house for a                                                               
few years doesn't  know the value of the property.   However, the                                                               
reality is  that if the  assessor has  good sales data  and there                                                               
have  been  no  changes  to  the house,  the  value  can  be  re-                                                               
determined through a statistical analysis every year.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:19:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. VAN  SANT directed attention  to the pages  entitled, "Here's                                                               
What it  Looks Like" and  "Increase ONLY the Assessed  Value, and                                                             
...", which relates how mill rates  and taxes are determined in a                                                               
hypothetical situation.   Those pages illustrate  the theory that                                                               
if the value  goes up while the  budget/revenue requirement stays                                                               
the same, the  mill rate will decrease as  will everyone's share.                                                               
He  then turned  to the  page entitled,  "What Causes  Changes in                                                               
Assessed Values?", which specifies that  such is caused by market                                                               
shifts,  increase  in property  demands,  decrease  in supply  of                                                               
properties,  and income  levels  changing.   With  regard to  the                                                               
question  and corresponding  page in  the presentation  entitled,                                                               
"What  Causes Changes  in Local  Tax Bills?",  Mr. Van  Sant said                                                               
that differences  are created by  local property  tax exemptions,                                                               
local  services increases/decreases,  budget  changes, and  state                                                               
shared  revenue increases/decreases.   He  then pointed  out that                                                               
cuts  in  state revenues  directly  correlate  with increases  in                                                               
local  revenues.   He moved  on  to the  graph entitled,  "Senior                                                               
Citizens Tax  Exemption", which amounted  to over $40  million in                                                               
2006.     He  mentioned  that   he's  working  on   the  proposed                                                               
legislation that would  increase the exemption to  $250,000.  The                                                               
proposed  legislation,  he  said,   will  increase  the  loss  to                                                               
municipalities   since   the   legislation  doesn't   include   a                                                               
corresponding funding amount.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:23:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FAIRCLOUGH   asked  if  there  have   been  discussions                                                               
regarding funding the senior property  tax exemption to encourage                                                               
[borough] incorporation versus revenue sharing.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. VAN  SANT replied yes, but  noted that it hasn't  occurred at                                                               
his level.   He suggested  that the commissioner and  director of                                                               
the Division  of Community  Advocacy could be  asked this  at the                                                               
next meeting.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:23:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  VAN  SANT  informed  the   committee  that  the  senior  tax                                                               
exemption hasn't  been funded since  1996.  He also  informed the                                                               
committee  that Anchorage  bears  about half  the  loss from  the                                                               
senior tax exemption.  In  fact, Anchorage probably lost a little                                                               
over $20 million  due to the senior tax exemption.   Mr. Van Sant                                                               
clarified that he  isn't saying that the senior  tax exemption is                                                               
a bad  exemption, but merely  that it  costs every taxpayer  in a                                                               
municipality.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FAIRCLOUGH   pointed  out  that  the   legislature  has                                                               
encouraged incorporation  for decades.   She  then said  that she                                                               
didn't  want  to  disenfranchise  smaller  communities  that  can                                                               
handle property taxes.   However, there seems to  be a discussion                                                               
and some  fall out points  that could help determine  why revenue                                                               
sharing is utilized rather than funding state mandates.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. VAN  SANT related that from  a property tax view,  the senior                                                               
tax  exemption is  of the  most concern  for municipalities.   He                                                               
noted  that  in smaller  communities,  the  senior tax  exemption                                                               
isn't as problematic as in areas  such as Anchorage.  For some of                                                               
the  smaller  communities,  revenue   sharing  would  over  power                                                               
funding  of this  program.   Furthermore,  revenue sharing  helps                                                               
every community whether it has a property tax or not.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FAIRCLOUGH  asked if Alaska's exemptions  are consistent                                                               
with other allowable exemptions throughout the nation.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  VAN  SANT  clarified  that  in  Alaska  there  are  mandated                                                               
exemptions,  such  as  the  senior  tax  exemption  and  optional                                                               
exemptions.   He explained that  under the senior  tax exemption,                                                               
every municipality  has to exempt  the first $150,000.   However,                                                               
Kenai offers  an optional exemption that  exempts everything over                                                               
the  first $150,000.   He  relayed that  at this  point Kenai  is                                                               
reviewing   potentially  trimming   its  exemption   because  the                                                               
municipality  is losing  a lot  of  money due  to the  exemption.                                                               
With regard  to other states,  Mr. Van Sant specified  that other                                                               
states  have mandated  options,  but  Alaska is  one  of the  few                                                               
states  with   optional  exemptions,  such  as   the  senior  tax                                                               
exemption beyond the $150,000 and  the residential exemption.  He                                                               
noted  that the  municipalities of  Kenai, Anchorage,  Fairbanks,                                                               
North  Slope,  and  Valdez  all take  advantage  of  the  $20,000                                                               
residential  exemption,   which  is  similar  to   the  homestead                                                               
exemption in other states.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:27:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. VAN SANT  continued his presentation with  the page entitled,                                                               
"Pro's of  the Property Tax",  which include that  property taxes                                                               
are a stable  and reliable source of revenue, have  more open and                                                               
visible administrative  systems than  for other taxes,  offers an                                                               
appeal system,  taxes are  secured by  property and  thus they're                                                               
difficult to evade, and collection  costs are less expensive than                                                               
other types of taxes.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:28:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR LEDOUX  inquired as to  how often property is  taken due                                                               
to  nonpayment  of  taxes.    She  pointed  out  that  her  local                                                               
newspaper  includes  lists  of   those  subject  to  foreclosure,                                                               
although  there never  seems to  be  a foreclosure  sale and  the                                                               
individuals remain on the foreclosure list the next year.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  VAN  SANT  explained  that  people  often  don't  pay  their                                                               
property  taxes  until  they absolutely  must  as  the  penalties                                                               
aren't very  harsh.  Furthermore,  the individuals can  use their                                                               
property tax money  to derive more revenue than if  the money was                                                               
given to  the municipality and  thus they may pay  their property                                                               
tax at  the last  minute.   Some individuals,  he noted,  do this                                                               
each year and some who  let their property proceed to foreclosure                                                               
don't  want the  property.   In reality,  Alaska has  a very  low                                                               
foreclosure rate, he related.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:30:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  VAN SANT  moved  on  to the  page  entitled,  "Con's of  the                                                               
Property Tax", which include  that taxes increase proportionately                                                               
more than income, property tax  falls on unrealized capital gains                                                               
and  may be  poorly  related  to cash  flow,  and large  lump-sum                                                               
payments often  associated with property  tax make  the magnitude                                                               
of the tax more apparent and unpopular.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR LEDOUX inquired as to why municipalities use two lump-                                                                 
sum payments  rather than  monthly payments  such as  is utilized                                                               
for utilities.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. VAN  SANT said that it  would be a bookkeeping  nightmare for                                                               
the municipality.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FAIRCLOUGH,  drawing upon past experience,  related that                                                               
it's  a  cash flow  issue  because  some municipalities  have  to                                                               
borrow to  provide monthly services  for police and  other public                                                               
safety  individuals.   Therefore, unless  the municipality  could                                                               
get "out in  front of the collection,"  the municipality wouldn't                                                               
have funds to pay for the aforementioned services.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. VAN  SANT pointed  out that another  issue impacting  this is                                                               
the lump-sum  bond payments  that municipalities  face.   Mr. Van                                                               
Sant  opined  that  the  private  sector  could  develop  a  [fee                                                               
schedule], but  it will want  to make money.   The aforementioned                                                               
is  evidenced by  mortgage companies  that take  monthly payments                                                               
toward the property  tax.  Only those  individuals with contracts                                                               
or who don't have a mortgage have to make the lump-sum payments.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FAIRCLOUGH surmised  that there are a  limited number of                                                               
individuals who  own their  own home,  and thus  consideration of                                                               
those who  own their home  regarding property tax  payments could                                                               
occur.  She  then asked if Mr. Van Sant  knew how many homeowners                                                               
have to make lump-sum payments.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  VAN  SANT said  his  office  doesn't  have  such data.    He                                                               
reiterated that  those who pay  lump sums also include  those who                                                               
have private contracts with other individuals.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:35:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. VAN  SANT continued his  review of  the negative side  of the                                                               
property  tax, which  includes the  fact that  more organizations                                                               
are  requesting  and receiving  exemptions  from  the tax.    The                                                               
aforementioned causes  a shift in  the tax burden.   Furthermore,                                                               
the property tax system is  an expensive system compared to other                                                               
tax  methods,  although it's  fairly  efficient  to maintain  it.                                                               
With  regard to  whether the  property  tax system  is broken  in                                                               
Alaska,  Mr. Van  Sant opined  that the  system isn't  broken but                                                               
rather is misunderstood.  However,  he confirmed that an increase                                                               
in assessed value  usually equals an increase in  the tax burden.                                                               
He highlighted  that the effective tax  burdens vary dramatically                                                               
from household to household and  shifting the burden guarantees a                                                               
new group of  aggrieved taxpayers.  Mr. Van  Sant then questioned                                                               
what to do  if the assumption is that the  property tax system is                                                               
broken  and   then  reviewed  the  pages   entitled,  "Assessment                                                               
Limitations."   He  explained that  assessment limitations  don't                                                               
reduce  the total  tax burden,  it merely  redistributes it.   In                                                               
general,   capping  assessments   benefits  those   with  rapidly                                                               
increasing values.  However, lower  valued properties tend to pay                                                               
more  in  taxes   due  to  tax  shifting.     Therefore,  capping                                                               
assessments only  creates an appearance  of limiting the  tax, it                                                               
actually falls  short of helping  the needy whose values  may not                                                               
increase  in value  as rapidly  as other  properties.   Moreover,                                                               
assessment  limitations create  winners and  losers because  like                                                               
any property tax  exemption, nonlimited parcels will  pay for the                                                               
tax relief  of assessment-limited parcels.   He  highlighted that                                                               
the biggest  policy surprise is  that value limits  will increase                                                               
taxes   on  value   limited  parcels   if  their   limitation  is                                                               
proportionately smaller than that of  the average limitation.  He                                                               
related that some  19 states currently have  limits on assessment                                                               
growth,  although some  are  now  questioning its  effectiveness.                                                               
Tax  rate limitations  constrain the  amount of  tax that  can be                                                               
collected and offers marginal protection  from rising taxes.  The                                                               
ramifications  of any  approach  is  merely a  shift  in the  tax                                                               
burden,  he  emphasized.   Although  the  incidence of  valuation                                                               
limits  isn't  yet clear,  it  may  be regressive  because  rapid                                                               
valuation  growth likely  occurs in  more desirable,  high income                                                               
areas  forcing  low income  taxpayers  to  subsidize high  income                                                               
taxpayers.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:43:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  VAN SANT  turned to  the page  entitled, "Alternatives",  of                                                               
which  the top  alternative  is to  reinstate  the state  revenue                                                               
sharing  program.   He informed  the  committee that  there is  a                                                               
direct correlation  between municipal property tax  increases and                                                               
the cuts  in state  revenue sharing.   Another alternative  is to                                                               
fund  the senior  exemption  program,  which cost  municipalities                                                               
$40.3 million in  2006.  The senior exemption program  is paid by                                                               
property owners  who aren't  seniors.  He  also pointed  out that                                                               
allowing an increase in the  local residential exemption from the                                                               
present $20,000 is another alternative.   In fact, Valdez and the                                                               
North Slope would  like to increase the  residential property tax                                                               
exemption  in  order  to  shift  more  to  their  commercial  and                                                               
industrial property  owners.   Since Valdez  and the  North Slope                                                               
have much  oil and gas  property, an increase in  the residential                                                               
property tax exemption would shift the  burden to the oil and gas                                                               
property owners.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:44:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  VAN SANT,  in response  to Co-Chair  LeDoux, specified  that                                                               
local  municipalities  currently have  the  option  of a  $20,000                                                               
residential exemption.   However, if that  exemption is increased                                                               
to  "not to  exceed $50,000",  then a  municipality could  choose                                                               
whether it wanted to shift the  burden more.  In further response                                                               
to  Co-Chair LeDoux,  he specified  that the  limitations of  the                                                               
exemption are  made be  state law, but  the municipality  has the                                                               
option to utilize  the exemption.  However, he  explained that if                                                               
a  community  does  increase  the   exemption  but  doesn't  have                                                               
anything  to which  the tax  burden  could be  shifted, then  the                                                               
value  would've  been  exempted  and  the  mill  rate  increases.                                                               
Therefore, the taxes would essentially be the same.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:46:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR   FAIRCLOUGH  requested   a  history   illustrating  how                                                               
industry  and commercial  entities responded  to the  residential                                                               
exemption.   She  related her  understanding that  valuations are                                                               
based  on  commercial  and  residential  property  and  thus  the                                                               
exemption  shifts  the burden  of  collection  of those  property                                                               
taxes to the commercial developments.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  VAN  SANT  said  that   from  the  oil  and  gas  industry's                                                               
viewpoint, [the  residential exemption] isn't of  concern because                                                               
the industry will pay 20 mills  regardless of whether it's to the                                                               
state or  the municipality.   However, it does make  a difference                                                               
for local commercial  property.  The history  that's available is                                                               
when  there  was  a  change  from  the  $10,000  to  the  $20,000                                                               
exemption, and there wasn't much  resistance in Fairbanks, Kenai,                                                               
or Anchorage.   From one perspective, the property  taxes will be                                                               
written off and  the commercial property owners can  pass that on                                                               
to the  individuals, although  that's not  done on  a dollar-for-                                                               
dollar  basis.    Mr.  Van  Sant said  he  wasn't  sure  how  the                                                               
commercial  industry  would   view  increasing  [the  residential                                                               
property tax exemption] to $50,000.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FAIRCLOUGH  inquired as to the  constitutional challenge                                                               
threshold for  a fair  taxation argument.   She surmised  that at                                                               
the  $20,000 exemption  one  can make  the  case that  commercial                                                               
property uses greater police service,  roads, et cetera and cause                                                               
additional costs that residential property owners aren't paying.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. VAN SANT said that he hasn't reviewed such.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:48:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  VAN  SANT  continued  his   presentation  and  informed  the                                                               
committee  of  the  alternative of  "Circuit  Breaker"  programs,                                                               
which are  utilized in many  states.   He explained that  under a                                                               
circuit breaker  program the  tax bill  doesn't exceed  a certain                                                               
percent  of a  household's income  and thus  tends to  help lower                                                               
income  individuals.   Many  of  these  circuit breaker  programs                                                               
utilize  the poverty  level  as  the threshold.    He noted  that                                                               
Alaska has one  deferral program in its laws and  it's set at the                                                               
federal poverty  guidelines, which  is fairly low  to be  able to                                                               
own a home  and pay taxes.   He said to his knowledge,  no one in                                                               
Alaska has  taken advantage  of that deferral  program.   Mr. Van                                                               
Sant then  highlighted the alternative  of allowing  property tax                                                               
deferrals  for  those who  simply  can't  pay the  property  tax.                                                               
Currently, municipalities  have no alternative when  people can't                                                               
pay  their  property  taxes.   Therefore,  deferral  and  circuit                                                               
breaker programs will provide municipalities  with tools in these                                                               
situations.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  LEDOUX opined  that a  circuit  breaker program,  since                                                               
it's  based  on  income,  would   seem  to  increase  the  senior                                                               
exemption.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. VAN SANT noted his agreement.   However, he recalled his time                                                               
as the  assessor in  Anchorage and  being faced  with individuals                                                               
who  couldn't pay  their property  taxes for  a couple  of years.                                                               
The  municipality   was  unable  to   offer  any  help   in  such                                                               
situations.   Therefore, the circuit  breaker programs  provide a                                                               
tool for  municipalities who  want to offer  help to  someone who                                                               
has  fallen on  bad  times.   Mr.  Van  Sant  then continued  his                                                               
presentation  and related,  in regard  to alternatives,  that any                                                               
new programs should have realistic  eligibility criteria so those                                                               
needing to  participate can.   Also any  new program  should have                                                               
some sort of inflation indexing.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:52:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  VAN SANT  emphasized that  municipalities are  struggling to                                                               
maintain  expected  service  levels  to  residents;  need  to  be                                                               
encouraged  to spread  the revenue  burdens; and  need assistance                                                               
from  the  state with  shared  revenue.  "Any type  of  deferral,                                                               
limitation,  circuit breaker,  abatement, or  exemption expansion                                                               
will  do little  except shift  the  tax burden,  thus creating  a                                                               
different  category   of  aggrieved  taxpayers,   however,  local                                                               
municipalities should have the tools  they need to make their own                                                               
decisions.     Any  new  state  mandated   exemptions  should  be                                                               
accompanied by state funding," he concluded.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 8:54 a.m. to 9:02 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^Alaska Municipal League                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:02:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR LEDOUX announced that the  final order of business would                                                               
be the presentation from the Alaska Municipal League.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:02:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TIM BOURCY,  President, Alaska  Municipal League  (AML), informed                                                               
the committee that  he is also the Mayor of  the City of Skagway.                                                               
He  then reviewed  his background  with AML  over the  last seven                                                               
years, during which revenue sharing  has been and continues to be                                                               
a  priority for  AML.   He pointed  out that  Alaska is  an owner                                                               
state and the  revenue from resources belong to  the residents of                                                               
the state.   The AML is passionate about  revenue sharing because                                                               
it desires for the future of the  state to be bright and thus the                                                               
resources to provide the basic  services in communities.  Revenue                                                               
sharing is  a way to achieve  the aforementioned, he stated.   He                                                               
related that AML  views itself as a partner of  the state in that                                                               
both  desire  for   the  state  to  be   organized  with  healthy                                                               
communities and educated children.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. BOURCY then recalled last  year when the legislature provided                                                               
funding  for  revenue sharing,  and  mentioned  his agreement  in                                                               
comments  he  heard  regarding  the  need  to  find  a  long-term                                                               
solution.   Therefore,  AML has  sought to  review possibilities,                                                               
which developed  into a sustainable revenue  sharing program that                                                               
would  provide  an  annual  appropriation of  6  percent  of  the                                                               
natural resource revenues  for the state.  The  proposal is based                                                               
on  the existing  revenue sharing  program,  he noted.   He  then                                                               
explained  that  the proposed  program  has  a base  distribution                                                               
formula  of $25,000  to unorganized  communities, $75,000  to all                                                               
organized  municipalities, and  $250,000  to all  boroughs.   The                                                               
remaining revenue would  be allocated on a per capita  basis.  He                                                               
pointed out  that he had  provided the committee with  a document                                                               
entitled, "2007  Revenue Sharing  Per Community," which  lays out                                                               
the distribution  of the  $8 million  in the  governor's proposed                                                               
budget this  year.   The committee packet  should also  include a                                                               
document  entitled,   "Revenue  Sharing  Comparison   6%  Natural                                                               
Resources," which  relates how that  revenue will  be distributed                                                               
throughout the  state.   In conclusion,  he highlighted  that the                                                               
committee packet  should also include draft  legislation that AML                                                               
would like introduced.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:09:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR LEDOUX  returned to the  unorganized communities  with a                                                               
population  of 25  or more,  and asked  if they  are required  to                                                               
provide at least rudimentary level services.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BOURCY said  that  he agreed  that [the  use  of the  funds]                                                               
should be defined  and should be required to  fund some services.                                                               
In further  response to  Co-Chair LeDoux,  he confirmed  that the                                                               
proposed legislation doesn't include  a specific definition as to                                                               
how the funds must be used.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  LEDOUX then  asked if  this draft  legislation includes                                                               
[any funds] going to unincorporated  communities in the organized                                                               
borough.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. DORSEY related  his understanding that [it would  be left] to                                                               
the  borough  to   disseminate  some  of  the   $250,000  to  the                                                               
unorganized  communities within  the borough.   However,  he said                                                               
that  he hadn't  thoroughly reviewed  the latest  version of  the                                                               
proposed legislation.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:12:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Community  and Regional  Affairs Standing  Committee meeting  was                                                               
adjourned at 9:12 a.m.                                                                                                          

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